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Ohio Unions Agree to Pay Freeze Through 2015

Seeded on Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:43 PM EST
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It seems that only yesterday that Issue 2 was all you saw in the news in Ohio.

Issue 2 was defeated, largely through the efforts of organized labor here in Ohio, and the unions are free to collectively bargain for their employees.

And they are ---

A second labor union has agreed to a contract extension with the state that includes no base-pay raises.

The current contract expires on May 31; it would be extended to May 31, 2015.

The SEIU deal will have the same major provisions of the larger union pact, including no base-pay raises, although “step-pay” and longevity increases will continue. Those are based on employee advancement over time on the job. Union members will retain health-care benefits and continue paying 15 percent of the premiums.

It is a welcome sight, to see the unions agreeing to a pay freeze in order to assist the state in meeting budget restraints now and in the future.

Local newspapers still carry stories about layoffs and reductions that may occur in the coming years in police forces, fire departments and school districts as local communities, counties as well as the state struggle to meet budget restraints in these trying economic times.

At least for now, it appears that both sides are working together in this effort.

Your comments, feedback and counter points are welcome and appreciated.

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Robert in Ohio

Unions are still hard at work in Ohio

And despite the acrimony and vitriol of the Issue 2 battle they are working together to balance the budget in Ohio

Comments, counter points and remarks are welcomed and appreciated

  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:45 PM EST
Sebbydad

Will tht governor and legislators that fought so hard against these evil unions be willing to take pay freezes and reductions in their benefits?

  • 1 vote
Reply#2 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:16 PM EST
Robert in Ohio

Sebbydad

The unions agreed to the state's proposal, so I would say that the answer to your question is yes.

Thanks for stopping by

  • 2 votes
#2.1 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:21 PM EST
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mike from wisc

This kind of stuff is great to hear. When every other working American is cutting back Unions also need to.

  • 2 votes
Reply#3 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:09 PM EST
Robert in Ohio

mike

Everyone does their part

  • 2 votes
#3.1 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:10 PM EST
Sebbydad

but every other working American is not cutting back. Ohio legislators have not given up their perks or increased their contributions to health care nor limited their pensions and perks.

  • Gov. Kasich, whose annual salary is $148,165 (over $10,000 more than his predecessor received), is exempt from the “performance pay” provisions of SB 5, and is still eligible to receive automatic annual 3% “step increases” that SB 5 would terminate for other public workers;
  • Gov. Kasich, while repeatedly calling for cuts in the pay and benefits of state and local government workers, pays his own senior staff an average salary of over $110,000. And he has repeatedly fudged the numbers on what he pays all workers in his office. In April, he told the General Assembly that the Governor’s Office payroll was just over $4.8 million. But as of May 7, the actual figure was just over $5.4 million —12% more than what the Governor claimed;
  • Gov. Kasich’s 27 Cabinet members earn an average base pay of more than $131, 000 and at least 22 of them each receive an additional $6,600 per year in “car allowances.” At least 7 Cabinet members are also ‘double dippers” who receive state pensions in addition to their government salaries;
  • All Members of the Ohio General Assembly earn a base salary of $60,584 for working a part-time job (the average annual salary for all Ohio workers is just over $40,000). But among the 70 Representatives and Senators who voted for SB 5, just 8 earn that “minimum.” The other 62 receive “leadership bonuses” ranging from nearly $34,000 per year to $5,000 annually, with the average bonus being over $8,600. Sen. Bill Seitz of Cincinnati —the only current member of the Senate who does not receive a bonus and was in the Senate when the SB 5 vote took place —had his bonus taken away when he refused to support the legislation;
  • Though fiercely critical of “double dipping” by other public workers, 12 House and Senate members who support SB 5 are themselves double-dippers (one is a triple-dipper), and collect legislative salaries in addition to state pensions. Perhaps the biggest single double-dipper in Ohio is House Speaker Bill Batchelder, who receives over $100,000 in a PERS pension, on top of his $94,500 annual legislative salary;
  • Unlike regular Ohioans, who are prohibited by law from claiming “mileage reimbursements” for car travel to and from their principal places of work, Ohio House and Senate members voting for SB 5 collect an average of $3,361 per year for driving to the State House to do their jobs;
  • Under SB 5, paid sick leave and vacation days would be reduced for average public workers. But General Assembly members enjoy unlimited paid leave for any reason whatsoever, subject only to the “approval” of the House and Senate leadership, whose approval is rarely, if ever, denied;
  • Other perks for legislators abound, including thousands of dollars worth of free tickets to athletic events like football, basketball and baseball games, free meals, and other gifts.

But the unions are what is breaking the bank.

  • 1 vote
#3.2 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:27 PM EST
Robert in Ohio

Seebydad

Thanks for the information

There is always more than might be done to better a situation

    #3.3 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:30 PM EST
    Sebbydad

    I'm not saying that worker pay should be one of the expenses controlled, it is a necessary thing in tight times, but it always galls me at companies that do pay freezes and layoffs for the sake of 'profitability' but then increase bonuses and perks for management at the same time.

    • 1 vote
    #3.4 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:44 PM EST
    Robert in Ohio

    Seebydad

    I am sure that some companies do as you say, but there are also companies that freeze compensation for everyone from the CEO to the loading dock in bad times and impose furloughs on management while not cutting back hours for the majority of the work force.

    I worked for one for a long time so there are social conscious companies around just not as many as we need.

    • 3 votes
    #3.5 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:48 PM EST
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    barry-barry-libcon

    Step one in Ohio (my state) has been achieved. The middle class will not only receive stagnation, it will expect it.

    Meanwhile, the Bankers, Financiers, and Insurance Cartels have another opportunity to cash in on middle class stagnation.

    In this 35th year of Supply Side Economics, the result of this deceitful, ignorant, economic model should becoming clearer. But, the question is----------------Is It? Or, are we still being lulled by the "Shining City On The Hill?"

      Reply#4 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:02 PM EST
      Robert in Ohio

      barry barry

      It is early in the morning so I gotta ask what your point is?

      • 1 vote
      #4.1 - Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:32 AM EST
      barry-barry-libcon

      I guess my point is this. The middle class is giving more of its potential wealth to those who have manipulated the markets, the economy, and the commodities prices.

      The transfer of wealth continues.

        #4.2 - Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:28 PM EST
        Robert in Ohio

        barry barry

        Ok that is your opinion but how does that related to this thread topic about unions and the state working together to balance the budget?

          #4.3 - Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:42 PM EST
          barry-barry-libcon

          Will check in later. Must leave for work.

            #4.4 - Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:59 PM EST
            Robert in Ohio

            barry barry

            No worries, later

              #4.5 - Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:15 PM EST
              barry-barry-libcon

              Fine. The more wealth that concentrates into the hands of the few, the more the states will have to extract from their citizens.

                #4.6 - Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:47 PM EST
                Robert in Ohio

                barry barry

                Thanks for that perspective

                  #4.7 - Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:12 AM EST
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