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The Next Right to Work State – Oregon?

Seeded on Tue Feb 7, 2012 3:47 PM EST
Read ArticleArticle Source: OregonLive.com
jobs, politics, oregon, unemployment, unions, wages, right-ot-work
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Could Oregon, a traditionally liberal, progressive true-blue state be the next Right to Work state?

Seems unlikely to even consider, but at least one expert, Steve Buckstein of the Cascade Policy Institute, thinks that it would be a good thing for the Oregon economy.

Mr Buckstein offers the following as potential results of a right to work law –

50,000 more people working in five years; 110,000 more working in ten years.

$2.7 billion more in wage and salary income in five years; $7.0 billion more in 10 years.

14 percent more taxpaying families per year moving into Oregon from non-right-to-work states.

The right to work law is a first step --

A right-to-work law can be viewed as part of a pro-investment package that encourages firms to locate and expand in the state. In turn, the improved opportunities would have the effect of attracting more taxpaying families into Oregon from other states, while slowing down the number who leave.

By examining IRS mobility data we found that a right-to-work policy here would increase net in-migration from non-right-to-work states by 14 percent from what it otherwise would be.

I will follow with interest how this plays out in Oregon and what if any effect the Oregon decision has on other states

Your comments, counterpoints and remarks are welcome and appreciated.

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Robert in Ohio

I was totally surprised to come across a right to work initiative in Oregon that seems to have real traction.

Oregon has always seem a bastion of liberal, progressive ideology which I assumed included strong union support.

It seems that right to work is gaining traction in more states

Your comments, counter points and remarks are welcome and appreciated.

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Reply#1 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 3:49 PM EST
Pilotshark

Interesting, I am in Portland Oregon and have not hear any thing about this. not only being a blue state it is a very green state as well.

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Reply#2 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:02 AM EST
Robert in Ohio

Pilotshark

Yeah I was surprised as well

My son got me a kindle fire for Christmas and I have an app that lets me read papers around the country and I cam across this article in an Oregon paper.

A right to work law in Oregon would go a long way to the concept spreading IMO

Thanks for stopping by

  • 1 vote
#2.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:33 AM EST
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arkpdx

Oregon is an At Will state right now. Here your employer can fire you for any reason or no reason at all. This came up as a friend of mine was let go on trumped up charges. He filed a wrongful dismissal lawsuit and proved his case. The judge hearing the matter though had to dismiss the suit because of the at will status.

The Bureau of Labor and Industry here is of no help to the worker either. When my mom's employer paid her with bogus checks all the labor board would do was tell her to take him to small claims court.

    Reply#3 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 9:44 PM EST
    Robert in Ohio

    arkpdx

    At Will does not mean able to fire for illegal (or discriminating) reasons

    What made the termination "wrongful"?

    At will employment = A common-law rule that an employment contract of indefinite duration can be terminated by either the employer or the employee at any time for any reason; also known as terminable at will

    In the U.S. exceptions to this doctrine which make the termination illegal also exist.

    Thus far, these exceptions have fallen into three

    broad categories: (1) breach of contract by the employer, (2) breach of an implied Covenant of Good Faith and fair dealing, and (3) violation of public policy by the employer

    So At Will is not really an unbridled ability to fire people

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    #3.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:18 AM EST
    arkpdx

    Robert

    According to my friend, the judges ruling stated that while there es enough evindence for wrongful termination ghetto laws of the state of Oregon did not allow for any penalties and dismissed the case iyt of hand.

      #3.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:02 AM EST
      Robert in Ohio

      arkpdx

      I was a HR Director in Wisconsin (based) with plants in multiple right-to-work states and we were forced to defend multiple termination cases every year and won most of them, but lost a couple here and there when bias was proven by the ex-employee.

      A wrongful termination would have to be based on a protected class status, a breech of implied contract or some valid premise but they are defensible. I am now semi-retired and consult with several companies and attorneys on the development of personnel policies, specifically recruiting, promotion and termination policies to insure that they are non-discriminatory and legally compliant.

      SOunds ot me like your friend got a raw deal from a bad, bad Administrative Law Judge and should appeal to the state labor board.

        #3.3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:44 PM EST
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